The Yin & Yang of Marketing & Sales—Part V

NoSpin Marketing

NoSpin Debunker #43: May 13, 2002

 

 

 

The Chicken & the Egg—How can you afford to invest in Marketing?

 

First, one reader’s contrary opinion to the last debunker: So where is the division of labor between Marketing & Sales?

 

Mary Kay Conlon (formerly of the Sachs Group and a former worthy competitor of mine years ago when she headed Sales at Sachs and I headed Marketing & Product Development at Inforum) had this to say:

 

“I agree with your definitions and roles and responsibilities.  In my experience, however, Marketing takes its direction from Sales, not the other way around.  It is the sales force who hears daily what the market wants, how it is segmented, what prices and packaging will fly, what the competition is doing, and how the product needs to be changed. Marketing sees itself as working for Sales (which includes the client
service organization, who is also charged with reselling and up-selling).

Perhaps this was more a reflection of the personalities and the power structure in my organization, than roles and responsibilities.  Or maybe I am talking about a process, rather than roles and responsibilities. But to be effective, to be market driven, Marketing clearly must work FOR the people who work FOR the clients and prospects.”

 

I agree with Mary Kay’s statement that in a lot of companies—probably the majority--Marketing is directed by Sales. That’s one way to do it but not the best way to organize the two functions for the many reasons mentioned last week. Unquestionably, though, Marketing and Sales must work together, and BOTH are critical to growing the company’s revenues and profits.

 

 

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Take the new NoSpin Poll for May 13th: Do you agree or disagree with the statement: My company's (or most recent company's) top managers believe in Marketing.

 

And a couple readers asked Jack Varney and me to clarify some of our comments about “leads” and “prospects” from the last Debunker. Here are our follow-up comments:

 

Text Box: Leads

Suspects        Þ            Prospects

There are degrees of “leads”:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably a better word for a “lead” that is initially generated via marketing efforts is a “suspect.”  There’s some early indication that this person or business could be a potential buyer—based on a request for information, willingness to provide contact information, use of a trial “product” or service” analysis of past buying patterns (for other similar or related products or services), market research, etc.

We’re probably arguing semantics here but a “suspect” (or a low level “lead”) becomes a true lead or “prospect” in the Sales process AFTER the Sales team starts uses its due diligence to qualify the suspect as a real lead. Then we’re into Sales Funnel prioritization and management (which is a whole other important topic).

 

Note that we are primarily talking about marketing and selling products and services of significant complexity and/or cost that they require some level of in-person or other individual Sales contact (versus lower priced and/or less complicated products that often require no “closer” and can be sold directly.

 

As mentioned in the last Debunker, the true “owner” of the lead is the company—not Sales. Marketing provides information to Sales regarding “suspects” that appear to be good potential candidates for the company’s products or services, Sales further adds to that information and qualifies a specific candidate—then works “the funnel.” Marketing, in turn, further analyzes the data gathered by Sales to identify additional opportunities within and outside the client base. 

 

Back to the Chicken & the Egg

 

OK—I’ll bet that some of you are saying, “Sure all this talk about Marketing sounds great in theory, but how can we afford “real” Marketing until we get more business? All we can afford now is Sales.”

 

This is a very tough, and very fair question, but we really need to turn it around. As I’ve talked about in a number of Debunkers over the past year, the question is rather, “If you want to grow your business, how can you afford NOT to invest in Marketing?”

 

But let’s be practical and not ivory-towerish here. Cash flow to fund Marketing is a real challenge in a lot of companies—especially in the last 12-18 months. Deep down a lot of companies know that they are not investing enough in Marketing to really help their sales, revenues and profits. But too often the conversation—and rationalization--quickly degenerates into:  “Sure, I understand that would be nice, I guess, but we just can’t afford it (Marketing) until business is a lot better.” Then, when a few bucks do become available what happens, at best, is an uncoordinated half-hearted “marketing” campaign that is usually not successful--adding further fuel to the fire that Marketing is a dreaded expense versus an investment. Thus, a vicious cycle that sometimes helps destroy companies--unnecessarily.

 

Good Marketers are Like Good Investment Professionals

 

Jack Varney likens a good Marketing professional (whether in-house or outsourced) to a good investment counselor: Marketing is indeed an investment; Marketing takes very conscientious and consistent work and continued investment over time to be successful; and Marketing needs to be held accountable over time for adding to company profits. He recommends “THE E-Myth” book series by Michael Gerber that helps entrepreneurs realize that they are the entrepreneurs and, in turn, need to delegate various functions like Marketing, Accounting, etc. to knowledgeable people for the business to get achieve the next level.  As a matter of fact companies may need to go through a couple of iterations of these types of people—including Marketers--as the organization grows. 

 

What’s your excuse?

 

So you say you don’t have the money to do the Marketing (that you probably need)? I’ll bet you do, and here are a few places to look before you give up on growing your company (like it could grow). Few companies don’t have at least a few pockets of waste that could fund growing their respective companies:

 

·        Get rid of people who are not contributing their fair share to marketing/selling, developing products, or servicing customers—especially at the upper levels—where it least often happens. As necessary, hire others who do their fair share and contribute--and get rid of the unproductive cronies and baggage.

·        Outsource ANY functions that offer equal or better service without the level of ongoing overhead (at a minimum to give you additional future flexibility).

·        Eliminate marquis vendors (big time law firms, fancy PR and Advertising firms, Big 4 Auditors etc—I guess that’s sort piling on--given Andersen’s melt-down and others’ difficulties) and use smaller, less expensive and sometimes much more competent professionals

·        Force your Sales people (in particular) to use technology, including email, web demos, and videoconferencing to keep in touch with prospects and not make expensive visits until the point in the Sales process they are truly needed.

·        Consider moving to less expensive office space next time—no, not moving more people into crummy cubicles but rather move to less pricey space—that may not have the same  “prestigious” address.

·        And I’m sure that if you have the guts to be brutally honest (or take someone else’s brutally honest advice), there are a number of others…

 

And by the way, the financial soul searching exercise above (which you may need someone to help you with) has little to do with knee-jerk moves like removing or making people pay for their own coffee, water, or soft drinks; not buying up-to-date technology (because people “already have PC’s”) or even slashing benefits etc. All wonderful ideas to generate employee dissatisfaction and decrease productivity. And quite asinine.

 

These are just a few ideas to free up resources to invest in growing your business. The tendency, though, is to fall back on the status quo instead—parallel to why nothing happens with the lousy public schools in many states or why thousands of lives and billions of dollars are lost in car accidents every year. There are proven answers to these issues (unlike curing cancer)--just as there are answers to the challenge of growing companies. But the reason nothing usually happens is that there just isn’t the intestinal fortitude to make it happen. The status quo is easier.

 

The flip side--if your company is a lean and mean machine

 

On the flip side, let’s assume that you are the leanest, meanest outfit around. OK, new Marketing investment needs to come from debt or equity capital—if you can’t generate it out of cash flow right now. It’s truly amazing how many companies that are lucky enough to have some reasonable access to capital never even consider Marketing dollars as a good way to invest in their future. They’d rather watch their companies flounder by hunkering down with their meaningless financial “insurance” policy; or by developing more vapor, or by buying difficult-to-assimilate companies, or by wasting it some other way. Of course, Management will still own all of those worthless shares when the thing finally tanks.  Trust me, it happens thousands of times a year.

 

Your business cannot afford not to Market its products and services—not if you want to keep growing revenues and profits. End of story.

 

Hope to hear from you—until next time.

 

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Tom Ranseen                           NoSpin Marketing                             615.383.7157